331 Spoiler and Discussion

[BleachOverdose]

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Soi Fon’s attack was stopped.

The name of Soi Fon opponent is Jio Vega and her sword’s name is “Bite off, Teguresutooku”

Omaeda’s opponent releases “Trample, Mamuuto”

It looks like a mammoth walking with 2 legs.

Omaeda is the vice captain of the second division and also the captain of the second part in Secret Mobile Corp.

Most of things just like as expected. They take actions quickly by releasing their swords and attack. However, it’s unknown if they are defeated or not. Then, next week.

from 69 @ 2ch

looks like a Bankai for Soi Fon after all...:D. I am looking forward to it.

[Vahn]

I still don't like Omaeda.

[BBBanshee]

I actually found this made Omaeda more interesting. I love the whole "dont judge a book by its cover" thing. And was that Fraccion flirting with Soi Fong? xD

[Kenshin]

I still don't get how it's possible for one released fraccion to get it's ass kicked by an unreleased Omaeda, and the other to be able to push back shikai Soi Fong without releasing.

I think the point of this chapter was to show that the fraccion don't fit in a specific power level category, still trying to justify Ikkaku's loss and Komamura's bankai...

Anyway I thought this chapter was pretty fun to read.

[Vahn]

Ikakku's loss was cuz he refused to use bankai. He was faced with an opponent that was too powerful for Ikakku's shikai to deal with, and his own ignorance caused his loss. Komamura's bankai was to show he wasn't playing around. Rather than try with shikai and use bankai if necessary, Komamura decided to destroy him with an attack he knew would be strong enough.

The whole Omaeda thing just furthers my annoyance with him, actually. He didn't fight outright, he just used little traps, and that fighting style bugs me.

[Genosuke]

I think the point of this chapter was to show that the fraccion don't fit in a specific power level category, still trying to justify Ikkaku's loss and Komamura's bankai...


Or maybe to justify the "we'll win with out lift a finger" that Aizen said

[Vahn]

Or at least try. These fraccion are just dropping like flies. Some put up a good fight, but if anybody's read the charts, the key players haven't come out to play yet on soul society's side. And it's obvious the 3 espada have barely done anything yet.

[BleachOverdose]

I don't think Fraccion should be thought of as particularly strong anyway. They are stronger than average hollows. If they were strong they wouldn't be Numeros

[Vahn]

Well, the strength of the Fraccion aren't even dependent on the strength of their coordinated espada. They are hand picked. I mean, Nell's fraccion were just menos until Noitorra changed them. They aren't particularly strong either. Grimmjow's were his "pack" in his days as a menos. And it can be safely assumed that all fraccion are no stronger than Yami (otherwise they'd be espada). Technically, though it's unlikely, yami could have a fraccion stronger than any of the other espada's fraccion, simply because no fraccion would be stronger than yami. By that logic, unless everybody's gotten stronger since the beginning of the arrancar arc, when ichigo cut off yami's arm, all fraccion are weaker than ichigo.

[BleachOverdose]

Well, the strength of the Fraccion aren't even dependent on the strength of their coordinated espada. They are hand picked. I mean, Nell's fraccion were just menos until Noitorra changed them. They aren't particularly strong either. Grimmjow's were his "pack" in his days as a menos. And it can be safely assumed that all fraccion are no stronger than Yami (otherwise they'd be espada). Technically, though it's unlikely, yami could have a fraccion stronger than any of the other espada's fraccion, simply because no fraccion would be stronger than yami. By that logic, unless everybody's gotten stronger since the beginning of the arrancar arc, when ichigo cut off yami's arm, all fraccion are weaker than ichigo.

This post made me lol! WIN!

[Vahn]

You're just happy that my logic says that the fraccion are weaker than ichigo

[BleachOverdose]

HELL NO! I knew that already. It does give you cool pts for having the genius to see it.

[Kenshin]

I'm gonna get laughed at but I have a theory (lemme get my flameproof coat 1 sec) that Pesche and Dondo might be vasto lordes. *takes cover*

My main reasoning is that their bodies were already very humanoid to start with, in shape and size, as opposed to Grimmjow for example.

Also, their masks are still almost whole, though damaged. So I believe they might still be menos, rather than arrancar.

Again, against Szayel, they gave everything they had to get back to Nel. But they didn't release their true form. You would expect, if they're really arrancar, that they would release their true form to fight at their maximum power. So maybe they are already in their true form. Maybe they really aren't arrancar yet.

This is a bit subjective, but I think they're very intelligent compared to other menos, another indication they might be VLs. And they have more "human" sentiments, like compassion.

Szayel kept their bodies for experimentation (i'm pretty sure it was their bodies hanging in his lab), which is a bit suspicious. Maybe the bodies they're using now are replica's. With Szayel's fornicas abilities it's not unlikely.

So basically the theory comes down to Pesche and Dondo still being menos, but too humanoid and intelligent (plus Szayel's test subjects) to be adjucas. *wonders if it's safe to come out yet*

[BleachOverdose]

I think Donde and Pessche are more than what they seem. But I wonder ...Szayel is supposed to have ripped off their masks. So why do they still have them or are they wearing some dead Hollow's mask?

VL I think is Wonderwiess. There has got to be some reason Aizen keeps an Arrancar that is clearly retarded.

[Vahn]

Wonderweiss is either extremely powerful but lacking intelligence, or he's simply Aizen's dog.

I think Donde and Pesche are stronger than what they seam, but not as strong as you guys may think. The ripping off of their masks was to force them to become arrancar, but the stronger arrancar have less mask most of the time. The full mask may show their weakness, that they are still more hollow than shinigami. Findor took off pieces of his mask to increase his strenght. I doubt that it was some special ability of his.

[BleachOverdose]

I don't think he ripped it to Shinigamify them...and they still have on masks.
I think forcefully removing it is bad. KT never said how they occur naturally and Noi wanted to get rid of all three of them....

I think they are stronger I always said I think they are there for more than just comedy...I still think Ichigo is gonna learn their version of the Cero.

[Vahn]

Arrancar are said to be hollows that tried to remove their masks to attain shinigami powers.